pappu
08-22 04:12 PM
Paskal:
Thanks for your kind reply. I am new to Buffalo, NY. Just moved from California. I dont know much ppl here. There is lots of indian community here but dont know why none is responding. If I can find one guy also I can book a car and drive there for rally.
Please send emails to your Univ. association email list. get in touch with your town's associations.
Thanks for your kind reply. I am new to Buffalo, NY. Just moved from California. I dont know much ppl here. There is lots of indian community here but dont know why none is responding. If I can find one guy also I can book a car and drive there for rally.
Please send emails to your Univ. association email list. get in touch with your town's associations.
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cinqsit
10-07 08:32 PM
Yes things are really bad. You are lucky that your company is even willing to consider filing eb2 other companies are not even filling willing to file eb3 perm. They dont want to apply any perm at all. On an average DOL is taking 9 months to approve perm, if it eb2 there is a good chace of getting audited and that will takes a couple of years.
As far as I know the business necessity statement is required whenever you apply for a Eb2 requirement (MS or bachelors+5) when according to DOL the job does not require a EB2 (basically the position you are applying for perm does not require EB2 but requires eb3 according to DOL but you are saying this position requires eb2 and not eb3). almost all jobs in IT according to DOL do not fall under EB2 they fall under Eb3, so every eb2 perm has a very good chance of getting audited. This situation has been further worsened by the economy and also the line cutters who try to jump from eb3 to eb2 by reapplying. DOL has caught on to this abuse just like they caught up with the labor sale(labor substitution) and abolished labor substitution. Similarly DOL is cracking down on any eb2 perm especially those who are reapplying. Before someone asks how does dol know you are trying to jump line by reapplying in Eb2, DOL knows because of the following information they ask in ETA form
"1. Are you seeking to utilize the filing date for a previously submitted application for Alien Employemnt Certification (ETA 750)?"
"1-A. If Yes, enter the previous filing date"
"2-A. "Indicate the previous SWA or local offiice case number OR, if not available, specify the state where case was originally filed:"
Nope! this is just some mis-information floating around - the question in the perm application form was useful when perm came into existence and was specifically for people who had traditional recruitment cases (remember TR) or RIR for that matter rotting in backlog reduction centers and who wanted to "upgrade" to better faster perm labor process and keep the same priority date
As far as I know the business necessity statement is required whenever you apply for a Eb2 requirement (MS or bachelors+5) when according to DOL the job does not require a EB2 (basically the position you are applying for perm does not require EB2 but requires eb3 according to DOL but you are saying this position requires eb2 and not eb3). almost all jobs in IT according to DOL do not fall under EB2 they fall under Eb3, so every eb2 perm has a very good chance of getting audited. This situation has been further worsened by the economy and also the line cutters who try to jump from eb3 to eb2 by reapplying. DOL has caught on to this abuse just like they caught up with the labor sale(labor substitution) and abolished labor substitution. Similarly DOL is cracking down on any eb2 perm especially those who are reapplying. Before someone asks how does dol know you are trying to jump line by reapplying in Eb2, DOL knows because of the following information they ask in ETA form
"1. Are you seeking to utilize the filing date for a previously submitted application for Alien Employemnt Certification (ETA 750)?"
"1-A. If Yes, enter the previous filing date"
"2-A. "Indicate the previous SWA or local offiice case number OR, if not available, specify the state where case was originally filed:"
Nope! this is just some mis-information floating around - the question in the perm application form was useful when perm came into existence and was specifically for people who had traditional recruitment cases (remember TR) or RIR for that matter rotting in backlog reduction centers and who wanted to "upgrade" to better faster perm labor process and keep the same priority date
Eternal_Hope
02-27 02:49 PM
About 25,000 PERM labors were approved in 2007 for Indian nationals. Assuming a 2.5:1 ratio of 'GC filed:Labor approved', implies that each year 62,500 GC are demanded by Indians under EB. Since only 10,000 are available (across all EB classes), this implies each year a backlog of 50,000 cases is created for Indians.
Since PD are essentially retrogressed from Nov. 2005, we can assume that since then another 100,000 Indians have joined the GC backlog. It can also be assumed that between 2001 and Nov. 2005 there must be another (atleast) 50,000 waiting for GC.
Assuming these numbers are correct, a person filing for labor today is looking to wait for atleast 15 years before getting a GC (150,000/10,000).
As for those wth PD prior to Nov. 2005 - well..... probably anywhere between 1 to 5 years .....
Comments on the analysis.........?
Since PD are essentially retrogressed from Nov. 2005, we can assume that since then another 100,000 Indians have joined the GC backlog. It can also be assumed that between 2001 and Nov. 2005 there must be another (atleast) 50,000 waiting for GC.
Assuming these numbers are correct, a person filing for labor today is looking to wait for atleast 15 years before getting a GC (150,000/10,000).
As for those wth PD prior to Nov. 2005 - well..... probably anywhere between 1 to 5 years .....
Comments on the analysis.........?
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newbie2020
05-18 08:01 PM
We should note that this bill was introduced in mid march and we didn't have any clue (including IV) sometimes chances of such bills may be easier to pass if the bill author chooses to include the provisions into another bill. Sometimes it better to stay low and get the provisions passed..;) ..... Overall i feel the provisions of this bill may get included into another one like 6039 or so
Contacting the authors and seeking their support will surely benefit us,
What do u guys think?
Contacting the authors and seeking their support will surely benefit us,
What do u guys think?
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sajidmd
02-19 10:47 AM
I am also getting into similar situation..
Salary is jumping by > 50%
Role is changing from Programmer Analyst to Manager... Will this have any impact ?
Salary is jumping by > 50%
Role is changing from Programmer Analyst to Manager... Will this have any impact ?
satyasaich
06-25 02:54 PM
Then why 'Americans' are NOT complaining on 'cheap' goods sold by walmart? Why you call that as 'great enterprise'?
Why 'Americans' are still clinging with beer bottles during weekends & glued to TVs only when the whole world is changing ?
Why 'Americans' are NOT complaining about 'cheap' foreign oil? Can you dare to think of $4/gallon?
My friend, wake up and recognise that world is more flat than you think.
Why you are NOT challenging the unisersity Boards about pay scales of their foot ball / basket ball coaches? Are they so special than professors? Coaches DO NOT produce future generation of engineers / doctors / economists/ teachers.
& you call that as 'lifestyle' watching and wasting and spending valuable time and money in the life as a student?
come on, be practical. you can be a sports fan but there is a line to draw
Why are you NOT challenging senators / congressman when they allow bail out of big banks with 'YOUR' tax money?
Please change the hat you are wearing and try to see the world.
OTE=oscarzumaran;1965481]It is a fact that cheap, illegal labor is destroying America and the lifestyle. No doubt about that. What do they think? American's did not do farming before? If you pay enough, any American will do the job.
It's the same process when a new fast food restaurant opens. Initially, all the workers are paid well and the restaurant does great....then come the cheaper labor cost hispanics, salaries fall, quality falls. Why doesn't Stephen Colbert replace his staff with illegal aliens?
Why do you think a franchise like Starbucks is doing sooo well even with very high prices for their products? They do not employ illegal aliens like most fast food and even well known restaurants do - and they pay very well. American's will work there. Same applies to farms or any other place of work.
This excuse will not work.[/QUOTE]
Why 'Americans' are still clinging with beer bottles during weekends & glued to TVs only when the whole world is changing ?
Why 'Americans' are NOT complaining about 'cheap' foreign oil? Can you dare to think of $4/gallon?
My friend, wake up and recognise that world is more flat than you think.
Why you are NOT challenging the unisersity Boards about pay scales of their foot ball / basket ball coaches? Are they so special than professors? Coaches DO NOT produce future generation of engineers / doctors / economists/ teachers.
& you call that as 'lifestyle' watching and wasting and spending valuable time and money in the life as a student?
come on, be practical. you can be a sports fan but there is a line to draw
Why are you NOT challenging senators / congressman when they allow bail out of big banks with 'YOUR' tax money?
Please change the hat you are wearing and try to see the world.
OTE=oscarzumaran;1965481]It is a fact that cheap, illegal labor is destroying America and the lifestyle. No doubt about that. What do they think? American's did not do farming before? If you pay enough, any American will do the job.
It's the same process when a new fast food restaurant opens. Initially, all the workers are paid well and the restaurant does great....then come the cheaper labor cost hispanics, salaries fall, quality falls. Why doesn't Stephen Colbert replace his staff with illegal aliens?
Why do you think a franchise like Starbucks is doing sooo well even with very high prices for their products? They do not employ illegal aliens like most fast food and even well known restaurants do - and they pay very well. American's will work there. Same applies to farms or any other place of work.
This excuse will not work.[/QUOTE]
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pcs
04-15 01:36 PM
Tonne of jobs in IT sector. Apply through www.naukri.com.
Indian immigration system will not discriminate
All the best
Indian immigration system will not discriminate
All the best
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seeking_GC
07-11 10:56 PM
This is beginning to look more and more like a organized and deliberate attempt to block people from filing for AOS.If the mysterious "knowledgeable official" quoted on the website can be summoned in court- that would be game over for the USCIS right there......
http://www.usimmlaw.com/current_information.htm
Copying the contents of the website below :
Visa numbers WERE available July 2nd!!
We have confirmed with a knowledgeable official in the Department of State Visa Office that USCIS was requesting visa numbers on Sunday July 1st, and Monday morning July 2nd - and that visa numbers were still being issued as late as the morning of July 2nd!
In fact, close to 30,000 visa numbers were requested and issued in July - through the morning of July 2nd. And we believe that many - if not most - of the requests made in the first two days of July were for applicants whose priority dates were not current in June!
So how can USCIS refuse to accept I-485 filings received BEFORE the State Department issued its notice that all visa numbers had been used???? We have not yet confirmed the return of any I-485s filed in July. But we do know that applications were reaching the USCIS before the State Department announcement - and while the USCIS was frantically working to use up the entire year's allocation.
USCIS did not use all visa numbers before July 2nd.
Did USCIS actually use the visa numbers it requested????
Historically, the USCIS doesn't request a visa number from the Department of State until it is ready to grant the adjustment of status application. US Consuls overseas request visa numbers the month before they intend to issue the immigrant visa. This is the reason why consuls return about ten percent of the visa numbers requested - and why USCIS does not generally return any numbers.
In fact, in making allocations of visa numbers, the Department of State factors in an expected return rate for consuls - but not for the USCIS. And the USCIS - before this June - used about 85% of the total immigrant visa numbers available.
However, already this month, the USCIS has been returning visa numbers. This confirms our earlier suspicion that the only way the USCIS could request 68,000 visa numbers in a matter of weeks was to request them in advance of adjudicating cases.
We believe USCIS exhausted the visa numbers by simply requesting them - not by using them. If so, and for reasons we will post shortly, we believe that over 30,000 visa numbers requested by USCIS will go unused - and will be wasted this year!
http://www.usimmlaw.com/current_information.htm
Copying the contents of the website below :
Visa numbers WERE available July 2nd!!
We have confirmed with a knowledgeable official in the Department of State Visa Office that USCIS was requesting visa numbers on Sunday July 1st, and Monday morning July 2nd - and that visa numbers were still being issued as late as the morning of July 2nd!
In fact, close to 30,000 visa numbers were requested and issued in July - through the morning of July 2nd. And we believe that many - if not most - of the requests made in the first two days of July were for applicants whose priority dates were not current in June!
So how can USCIS refuse to accept I-485 filings received BEFORE the State Department issued its notice that all visa numbers had been used???? We have not yet confirmed the return of any I-485s filed in July. But we do know that applications were reaching the USCIS before the State Department announcement - and while the USCIS was frantically working to use up the entire year's allocation.
USCIS did not use all visa numbers before July 2nd.
Did USCIS actually use the visa numbers it requested????
Historically, the USCIS doesn't request a visa number from the Department of State until it is ready to grant the adjustment of status application. US Consuls overseas request visa numbers the month before they intend to issue the immigrant visa. This is the reason why consuls return about ten percent of the visa numbers requested - and why USCIS does not generally return any numbers.
In fact, in making allocations of visa numbers, the Department of State factors in an expected return rate for consuls - but not for the USCIS. And the USCIS - before this June - used about 85% of the total immigrant visa numbers available.
However, already this month, the USCIS has been returning visa numbers. This confirms our earlier suspicion that the only way the USCIS could request 68,000 visa numbers in a matter of weeks was to request them in advance of adjudicating cases.
We believe USCIS exhausted the visa numbers by simply requesting them - not by using them. If so, and for reasons we will post shortly, we believe that over 30,000 visa numbers requested by USCIS will go unused - and will be wasted this year!
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perm2gc
12-01 05:33 PM
Hi Gurus
Here is my senario
I am in my 6th year of H1 which expires in Aug 2007.
I have my Labor (PERM) and I140 aprroved from my current employer.
I would like to tranfer my H1 to different employer .
can we apply for tranfer and 3 year extension of h1 to new employer with approved current labor(PERM) and 140(approved)
or should I need to tranfer my h1 forst and wait till FEB 2007 to apply my extension with approved labor(PERM) and 140 (approved ) from my current employer.
I really need your advise on this issue.
please help on this gurus.
Thanks
If the offer is good you can take it .but your new employer has to start the PERM process immediately and you have every chance that labor and i140 will be approved so that you can file for 3 yr extension.
You can also keep the PD if your employer will not cancel the i140 once you leave the company and your new i140 is approved before they cancel.
You cannot apply the extension for 3yrs with new employer as your labor and i140 are tied to old employer.
Here is my senario
I am in my 6th year of H1 which expires in Aug 2007.
I have my Labor (PERM) and I140 aprroved from my current employer.
I would like to tranfer my H1 to different employer .
can we apply for tranfer and 3 year extension of h1 to new employer with approved current labor(PERM) and 140(approved)
or should I need to tranfer my h1 forst and wait till FEB 2007 to apply my extension with approved labor(PERM) and 140 (approved ) from my current employer.
I really need your advise on this issue.
please help on this gurus.
Thanks
If the offer is good you can take it .but your new employer has to start the PERM process immediately and you have every chance that labor and i140 will be approved so that you can file for 3 yr extension.
You can also keep the PD if your employer will not cancel the i140 once you leave the company and your new i140 is approved before they cancel.
You cannot apply the extension for 3yrs with new employer as your labor and i140 are tied to old employer.
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pd_recapturing
08-22 04:16 PM
i sent u a PM. Please respond, if u can.
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Ramba
10-08 06:05 PM
Absolutly No. H4 is a non-immigrant status where emplyment previlage is prohibited. If you want to use EAD or to accept any employment, you should be in a status that allows you to work legally. Therefore AOS is a status that allows you to work. One can have "dual intent"; however one can not have "dual status" at a same time. Therefore once you use EAD you automatically switch to AOS status from H4 status. EAD is a benefit to AOS status people not for H4.
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GCBy3000
04-17 10:29 AM
Last time when Bill Clinton signed similar bill, it became effective immediately. So this should also be immediate.
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hopefulgc
08-13 01:05 PM
Actually. .. vdlrao could be Honorable Mr. Charles Oppenheimer (Official in charge of issuing visa bulletins) :D:D:D:D
his predictions were so accurate ... black 'copters landed and took him away... :p
his predictions were so accurate ... black 'copters landed and took him away... :p
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admin
04-03 07:37 AM
Great fact sheet. It should list people like Andy Grove, Jerry Yang, and Sergey Brin - Hungarian, Chinese and Russian co-founders of Intel, Yahoo and Google - all immigrants.
Morpheus,
Thanks for your interest. We did consider all three of them but when we did more research, we found that all three of them did not get their Green Card on EB category. They had come here because their parents had come here.
qvadis, Thanks for pointing out Andy Bechtolsheim and Safi Qureshey.
Morpheus,
Thanks for your interest. We did consider all three of them but when we did more research, we found that all three of them did not get their Green Card on EB category. They had come here because their parents had come here.
qvadis, Thanks for pointing out Andy Bechtolsheim and Safi Qureshey.
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newuser
08-17 12:10 PM
For renewal they did not even ask me for any documentation. Renewed online, went to DMV and got it for 4 years.
I agree with ashkam. If you renew online, you can get it for 4 years. But if you go in person to DMV, they will issue based in EAD.
I agree with ashkam. If you renew online, you can get it for 4 years. But if you go in person to DMV, they will issue based in EAD.
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mhtanim
02-26 03:18 PM
Please recheck your info before dispensing advice. Adjustment of Status application is based on premise that you are already present in USA. At the time approval, you should be present in USA. Thus the need for AP. If your Green card AOS application has been approved while you are out of country. You NEED AP to enter.
You have raised an interesting point that I have not thought about before. My advice was based on few people who actually did came back to the U.S. using GC while they were abroad.
You have to be in the U.S. while you are filing I-485. However, I will be willing to see where you got "At the time approval, you should be present in USA".
There are lot of people who have valid H1/H4 stamp and did not bother to apply for AP because of that. If what you are saying is the fact, then all those people are taking risks when they are leaving the U.S. without AP.
http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch021808_P.html
Chat User : How can one return to the USA if his I-485 is approved while abroad?
Attorney Murthy : Per the March 2000 and the May 2000 Legacy INS Memos, one could presumably use the AP to reenter, if one has the AP approved before departing the U.S. If not, that could add more complications. The CBP inspectors could refuse entry, technically, but they are allowed to parole an individual into the U.S. If one has an H-1/H-4 or L-1/L-2, s/he could use those documents to get on the plane, and then explain the I-485 approval at the POE.
http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch120307_P.html
Chat User : Thanks for your great service, I am in India with AP right now and my GC has been approved now. Is there any problem with reentering using AP?
Attorney Murthy : Generally, the CBP Inspector is allowed to use the AP for the person to be able to enter the U.S. and then the individual should get the I-551 card (GC) in the mail. In fact, if one has a family member or friend checking the mail, it could be possible to have the GC sent abroad, so that it can be used to reenter the U.S. In either event, it should not pose a problem, as long as the AP has not yet expired per the Legacy INS policy guidance on this issue.
I guess the second scenario is for someone who does not have a valid H1/H4 stamp in the passport. In both scenarios, it was not mentioned what happens if someone mails you the GC.
Anybody has more experience in this please comment.
You have raised an interesting point that I have not thought about before. My advice was based on few people who actually did came back to the U.S. using GC while they were abroad.
You have to be in the U.S. while you are filing I-485. However, I will be willing to see where you got "At the time approval, you should be present in USA".
There are lot of people who have valid H1/H4 stamp and did not bother to apply for AP because of that. If what you are saying is the fact, then all those people are taking risks when they are leaving the U.S. without AP.
http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch021808_P.html
Chat User : How can one return to the USA if his I-485 is approved while abroad?
Attorney Murthy : Per the March 2000 and the May 2000 Legacy INS Memos, one could presumably use the AP to reenter, if one has the AP approved before departing the U.S. If not, that could add more complications. The CBP inspectors could refuse entry, technically, but they are allowed to parole an individual into the U.S. If one has an H-1/H-4 or L-1/L-2, s/he could use those documents to get on the plane, and then explain the I-485 approval at the POE.
http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch120307_P.html
Chat User : Thanks for your great service, I am in India with AP right now and my GC has been approved now. Is there any problem with reentering using AP?
Attorney Murthy : Generally, the CBP Inspector is allowed to use the AP for the person to be able to enter the U.S. and then the individual should get the I-551 card (GC) in the mail. In fact, if one has a family member or friend checking the mail, it could be possible to have the GC sent abroad, so that it can be used to reenter the U.S. In either event, it should not pose a problem, as long as the AP has not yet expired per the Legacy INS policy guidance on this issue.
I guess the second scenario is for someone who does not have a valid H1/H4 stamp in the passport. In both scenarios, it was not mentioned what happens if someone mails you the GC.
Anybody has more experience in this please comment.
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mbartosik
06-22 05:15 PM
They charge $2, blimey, that's nothing. They want to increase to $9, hey increase it to $100 and to the job properly!
If I was stuck in name check I'd happy write them a check for $900 not just $9.
This is a typical example of how doing things on the cheap is just plain stupid.
If they are going to do a name check for the 12,000,000 to 20,000,000 then how does that affect them. In computing we have to write systems that scale, I doubt their system will scale to cope with an extra 20,000,000 checks.
If I was stuck in name check I'd happy write them a check for $900 not just $9.
This is a typical example of how doing things on the cheap is just plain stupid.
If they are going to do a name check for the 12,000,000 to 20,000,000 then how does that affect them. In computing we have to write systems that scale, I doubt their system will scale to cope with an extra 20,000,000 checks.
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gccovet
10-30 12:41 PM
Folks,
Iam starting this new thread so that people will know what are the pros and cons leaving a company once GC is approved.
1.What are all the things to be noted while leaving the company after getting GC.
2.To be specific how long a consultant should be with company after GC is approved.
3.Also once GC is approved and if the consultant is off the payroll for say 2 to 3 months will there be any problem while filing for citizen ship.
Shr1,
I guess, you must be already "Greened" :-).
May I ask you to spare few minutes of your time to read and do the follwing Action Item, if you already done so, thank you!.
check out http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22182
We request all the members to start sending the following 4 letters. For your convenience the letters have been completely written including addresses to be sent � all you have to do is download following 4 google documents � add the date, your name and address � and send it to the address provided on each letter.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_1d3mzhr6c
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_2fp3nrhvb
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_3d8h2x7dr
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_4fxnvq9tw
To reiterate: You have to send 4 letters � these letters can be downloaded at the above URL�s. Edit the document to add current date, name, address etc. and mail it (regular mail). After doing that, please update the poll so we know how many letters are being sent.
To get more background on this issue and see what has been done so far, please see these two threads:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...d.php?t=22052;
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=21716
GCCovet
Iam starting this new thread so that people will know what are the pros and cons leaving a company once GC is approved.
1.What are all the things to be noted while leaving the company after getting GC.
2.To be specific how long a consultant should be with company after GC is approved.
3.Also once GC is approved and if the consultant is off the payroll for say 2 to 3 months will there be any problem while filing for citizen ship.
Shr1,
I guess, you must be already "Greened" :-).
May I ask you to spare few minutes of your time to read and do the follwing Action Item, if you already done so, thank you!.
check out http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22182
We request all the members to start sending the following 4 letters. For your convenience the letters have been completely written including addresses to be sent � all you have to do is download following 4 google documents � add the date, your name and address � and send it to the address provided on each letter.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_1d3mzhr6c
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_2fp3nrhvb
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_3d8h2x7dr
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_4fxnvq9tw
To reiterate: You have to send 4 letters � these letters can be downloaded at the above URL�s. Edit the document to add current date, name, address etc. and mail it (regular mail). After doing that, please update the poll so we know how many letters are being sent.
To get more background on this issue and see what has been done so far, please see these two threads:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...d.php?t=22052;
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=21716
GCCovet
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rjgleason
March 15th, 2004, 05:26 AM
No...........I'm going to wait until the next generation camera phones come out........rumor has it the developers are going to include a 70-200 2.8 L IS
with the ability to interchange with several other lenses not yet in development.
with the ability to interchange with several other lenses not yet in development.
vinayskadam
11-24 01:22 PM
@lj_rr:
Thanks a lot for the quick reply, its really helpful.
Thanks a lot for the quick reply, its really helpful.
jkays94
05-04 02:17 PM
Here are the relevant parts of the transcript (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/03/acd.01.html) :
COOPER: Rising gas prices aren't the only thing causing heartburn this election year. Immigration reform is close behind. The battle at the border has spread into the heartland and across the country. Some politicians already paying the price. Ahead, we'll get a reality check from the best political team around.
Plus, a brazen break in the border. They've actually poured concrete here and they've formed steps which makes it easier for whoever was bringing drugs into the United States, actually climb up through the tunnel.
Tunnel built by drug runners. We showed it to you back in January. Now there's a new development in the story. What's going to happen to the tunnel? We'll bring you the latest next on 360.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
COOPER: Those pictures, of course, from Monday's massive immigration demonstrations. Hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants and their supporters in the streets. They wanted to show their economic power. They hoped that would translate into political power. But now some critics are saying it's actually had the opposite effect, creating a backlash. And in at least one city so far the issue has already cost a Mayor his job. Here's CNN's Candy Crowley.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
CANDY CROWLEY, SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: This is where day laborers, mostly immigrants, legal and not, hang out looking for work in Herndon, Virginia. It may not look like an election issue, but last night, voters threw out their mayor and two city council members who pushed for the day labor center. This is the new mayor.
STEVE DEBENEDITTIS, HERNDON VIRGINIA MAYOR-ELECT: Welcome immigrants, but they have concerns, valid concerns, about illegal immigration.
CROWLEY: Fewer than 3,000 people voted in Herndon. Just about 24 hours after the nation watched hundreds of thousands of immigrants, legal and not, demonstrate across the country.
FRANK SHARRY, EXEC. DIR., NATIONAL IMMIGRATION FORUM: I've never known a politician who wasn't attracted to a large crowd. And these have been some pretty large crowds.
CROWLEY: True enough, it was evidence that the immigrant community can galvanize itself. The question is, to what end? Congress is reading the tea leaves.
SEN. HARRY REID, (D) MINORITY LEADER: I personally believe very, very fervently that they have helped, helped picture this issue in the minds of the American people in a positive fashion.
CROWLEY: Tea leaf reading is not an exact science, particularly in an election year where frankly democrats would be better off if the republican-led congress did nothing.
SHARRY: I think the congress is going to have a lot of explaining to do if they don't end this session with a good comprehensive bill.
CROWLEY: Republicans desperate for something to tout as accomplishment, anxious not to alienate core conservative voters, are afraid the demonstrations harden conservative opposition to anything that smacks of a break for illegals. SEN. MEL MARTINEZ, (R) FLORIDA: I believe at the end of the day we'll see that it really had a negative effect and it backfired on those of us who are trying to move forward something that is comprehensive but yet in middle course.
CROWLEY: Senator Mel Martinez of Florida says since Monday's demonstrations calls to his office have run 10 to 1 against his bill providing tougher border security and a pathway to citizenship after hurdles are jumped.
JOHN FUNU, WALL STREET JOURNAL: The boycott has so heated up the measure that we're not going to have any bill this year. It's simply poisoned the well.
CROWLEY: As Washington lawmakers struggle with the political weight of all those demonstrations --
SEN. JOHN CORNYN, (R) TEXAS: It wasn't clear exactly what the message was. And I think in some ways it tended to polarize people.
CROWLEY: Herndon, Virginia, is already discussing changes to ensure the day labor center cannot be used by illegals. The problem with tea leaves is, you never know which ones to read. Candy Crowley, CNN, Washington.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
COOPER: Well, earlier I spoke with Candy Crowley along with John Roberts and John King, part of the best political team on television.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
COOPER: John Roberts, what are the prospects for getting immigration reform this year?
JOHN ROBERTS, SR. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That would depend on who you talk to. Some republicans who want to put a good spin on this say that it's possible that they can get it done. It might even be possible that they could get it done by the August recess. Other people including the White House are much more pessimistic about it saying they don't expect anything to happen until after the November election.
COOPER: Candy, I mean could these demonstrations really have backfired and derailed a compromised deal, even among those who support some sort of reform?
CROWLEY: Absolutely. I mean, the problem really is, first of all, the politics are that the democrats would rather have the issue at this point because it's an election year than a bill. The republicans would like a bill because it will be an accomplishment, but they have problems with their conservative core. And the people we talked to said listen, the demonstrations backfired. It left -- people looked and said well they're not working, and they're out demonstrating. You know, fair or not, the conservative core sort of toughened up. It seemed to have hardened both sides of this debate. COOPER: John King, a lot of talk, too about all the Mexican flags out in the street. Obviously there were a lot of American flags where organizers really tried to get American flags out there. But that certainly angers a lot of people. What are you hearing from the people you talked to in Washington?
JOHN KING, CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, that tactic, as Candy just noted, there is a backfiring from these demonstrations. And that tactic in particular has emboldened conservatives. Remember the key question here is, if they can get a bill through the senate, can they then get the house to embrace a more liberal immigration policy? The house members, most are from safe conservative districts. And back home in their districts they didn't feel all that much pressure to begin with. And what they are saying now is that this sends an anti-American signal.
If these people want legal status in the United States, they should be holding American flags, they should be demonstrating for rights in the United States not celebrating Mexico or El Salvador. So to that degree, while the masses in the streets certainly showed the emerging political power and potential political power of the Latino vote, that symbol has helped the opponents of this measure especially in the house. It has simply stiffened the resolve of conservatives who say no to any new broad immigration reform.
COOPER: Rising gas prices aren't the only thing causing heartburn this election year. Immigration reform is close behind. The battle at the border has spread into the heartland and across the country. Some politicians already paying the price. Ahead, we'll get a reality check from the best political team around.
Plus, a brazen break in the border. They've actually poured concrete here and they've formed steps which makes it easier for whoever was bringing drugs into the United States, actually climb up through the tunnel.
Tunnel built by drug runners. We showed it to you back in January. Now there's a new development in the story. What's going to happen to the tunnel? We'll bring you the latest next on 360.
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COOPER: Those pictures, of course, from Monday's massive immigration demonstrations. Hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants and their supporters in the streets. They wanted to show their economic power. They hoped that would translate into political power. But now some critics are saying it's actually had the opposite effect, creating a backlash. And in at least one city so far the issue has already cost a Mayor his job. Here's CNN's Candy Crowley.
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CANDY CROWLEY, SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: This is where day laborers, mostly immigrants, legal and not, hang out looking for work in Herndon, Virginia. It may not look like an election issue, but last night, voters threw out their mayor and two city council members who pushed for the day labor center. This is the new mayor.
STEVE DEBENEDITTIS, HERNDON VIRGINIA MAYOR-ELECT: Welcome immigrants, but they have concerns, valid concerns, about illegal immigration.
CROWLEY: Fewer than 3,000 people voted in Herndon. Just about 24 hours after the nation watched hundreds of thousands of immigrants, legal and not, demonstrate across the country.
FRANK SHARRY, EXEC. DIR., NATIONAL IMMIGRATION FORUM: I've never known a politician who wasn't attracted to a large crowd. And these have been some pretty large crowds.
CROWLEY: True enough, it was evidence that the immigrant community can galvanize itself. The question is, to what end? Congress is reading the tea leaves.
SEN. HARRY REID, (D) MINORITY LEADER: I personally believe very, very fervently that they have helped, helped picture this issue in the minds of the American people in a positive fashion.
CROWLEY: Tea leaf reading is not an exact science, particularly in an election year where frankly democrats would be better off if the republican-led congress did nothing.
SHARRY: I think the congress is going to have a lot of explaining to do if they don't end this session with a good comprehensive bill.
CROWLEY: Republicans desperate for something to tout as accomplishment, anxious not to alienate core conservative voters, are afraid the demonstrations harden conservative opposition to anything that smacks of a break for illegals. SEN. MEL MARTINEZ, (R) FLORIDA: I believe at the end of the day we'll see that it really had a negative effect and it backfired on those of us who are trying to move forward something that is comprehensive but yet in middle course.
CROWLEY: Senator Mel Martinez of Florida says since Monday's demonstrations calls to his office have run 10 to 1 against his bill providing tougher border security and a pathway to citizenship after hurdles are jumped.
JOHN FUNU, WALL STREET JOURNAL: The boycott has so heated up the measure that we're not going to have any bill this year. It's simply poisoned the well.
CROWLEY: As Washington lawmakers struggle with the political weight of all those demonstrations --
SEN. JOHN CORNYN, (R) TEXAS: It wasn't clear exactly what the message was. And I think in some ways it tended to polarize people.
CROWLEY: Herndon, Virginia, is already discussing changes to ensure the day labor center cannot be used by illegals. The problem with tea leaves is, you never know which ones to read. Candy Crowley, CNN, Washington.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
COOPER: Well, earlier I spoke with Candy Crowley along with John Roberts and John King, part of the best political team on television.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
COOPER: John Roberts, what are the prospects for getting immigration reform this year?
JOHN ROBERTS, SR. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That would depend on who you talk to. Some republicans who want to put a good spin on this say that it's possible that they can get it done. It might even be possible that they could get it done by the August recess. Other people including the White House are much more pessimistic about it saying they don't expect anything to happen until after the November election.
COOPER: Candy, I mean could these demonstrations really have backfired and derailed a compromised deal, even among those who support some sort of reform?
CROWLEY: Absolutely. I mean, the problem really is, first of all, the politics are that the democrats would rather have the issue at this point because it's an election year than a bill. The republicans would like a bill because it will be an accomplishment, but they have problems with their conservative core. And the people we talked to said listen, the demonstrations backfired. It left -- people looked and said well they're not working, and they're out demonstrating. You know, fair or not, the conservative core sort of toughened up. It seemed to have hardened both sides of this debate. COOPER: John King, a lot of talk, too about all the Mexican flags out in the street. Obviously there were a lot of American flags where organizers really tried to get American flags out there. But that certainly angers a lot of people. What are you hearing from the people you talked to in Washington?
JOHN KING, CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, that tactic, as Candy just noted, there is a backfiring from these demonstrations. And that tactic in particular has emboldened conservatives. Remember the key question here is, if they can get a bill through the senate, can they then get the house to embrace a more liberal immigration policy? The house members, most are from safe conservative districts. And back home in their districts they didn't feel all that much pressure to begin with. And what they are saying now is that this sends an anti-American signal.
If these people want legal status in the United States, they should be holding American flags, they should be demonstrating for rights in the United States not celebrating Mexico or El Salvador. So to that degree, while the masses in the streets certainly showed the emerging political power and potential political power of the Latino vote, that symbol has helped the opponents of this measure especially in the house. It has simply stiffened the resolve of conservatives who say no to any new broad immigration reform.
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