somegchuh
05-05 05:39 PM
I think H1Bmajdoor isn't taking a depressing tone. It's more of a realization tone.
I believe that immigrationvoice core is a great, dedicated and determined group of ppl that's fighting retrogression. If they are successful they will positively touch a LOT of ppl.
Here's a little history of GC process I know...
back in the late 90's, labor processing (state+fed) varied for different regions of the country but there was retrogression(not sure how bad) so it used to take 3 years in CA and maybe 4 in some other states for the whole process. And some people who couldn't complete the process in 6 years ended up going back or went to canada. I personally know a couple of families who couldn't get it in 6 years of H1n.
Then in 2000-2001 suddenly labor started getting approved (State+fed) in a couple of months and dates also became current. Now this happened because businesses had been pushing the govt really hard stating that they are unable to get labor. These laws became effective after the market had crashed. So some people who were in safe jobs were able to take advantage but most ppl were hardly surviving. Around 2002 labor process started getting slower and slower and they established BEC's. So, labor started taking 3-5 years.
Then in 2005 they devised PERM. Now, that PERM was taking only a few months so they introduced serious retrogression. In this process some ppl who had been waiting for 4-5 years for labor to clear from BEC got slammed badly. They will be stuck for another year or two. Now that's really sad .... But if you applied in PERM in the last couple of years and will be stuck in retrogression ... well its bad but not the worst thing in life.
I don't mean to belittle anyone's wait, anxiety, pain of GC process but the process has always been painful. Only some ppl manage to get out of it unscathed.
I believe that immigrationvoice core is a great, dedicated and determined group of ppl that's fighting retrogression. If they are successful they will positively touch a LOT of ppl.
Here's a little history of GC process I know...
back in the late 90's, labor processing (state+fed) varied for different regions of the country but there was retrogression(not sure how bad) so it used to take 3 years in CA and maybe 4 in some other states for the whole process. And some people who couldn't complete the process in 6 years ended up going back or went to canada. I personally know a couple of families who couldn't get it in 6 years of H1n.
Then in 2000-2001 suddenly labor started getting approved (State+fed) in a couple of months and dates also became current. Now this happened because businesses had been pushing the govt really hard stating that they are unable to get labor. These laws became effective after the market had crashed. So some people who were in safe jobs were able to take advantage but most ppl were hardly surviving. Around 2002 labor process started getting slower and slower and they established BEC's. So, labor started taking 3-5 years.
Then in 2005 they devised PERM. Now, that PERM was taking only a few months so they introduced serious retrogression. In this process some ppl who had been waiting for 4-5 years for labor to clear from BEC got slammed badly. They will be stuck for another year or two. Now that's really sad .... But if you applied in PERM in the last couple of years and will be stuck in retrogression ... well its bad but not the worst thing in life.
I don't mean to belittle anyone's wait, anxiety, pain of GC process but the process has always been painful. Only some ppl manage to get out of it unscathed.
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GCStatus
09-15 12:07 PM
Yes, great to see fellow determined souls here so far
Goal is to get atleast 1000 to start with.
First step is to collect details ( Name, E-mail and Ph No# )
Please send them MAN-WOMAN-GC ASAP . He has gracefully offered to maintain a spreadhseet.
Once we reach the number of resources, we will have conference calls, meet in person whoever can, arrange for money, decide on lawyers ( which MadhuVJ has some very good suggestions ) and move on from there
We are doing it brothers and sisters.
Goal is to get atleast 1000 to start with.
First step is to collect details ( Name, E-mail and Ph No# )
Please send them MAN-WOMAN-GC ASAP . He has gracefully offered to maintain a spreadhseet.
Once we reach the number of resources, we will have conference calls, meet in person whoever can, arrange for money, decide on lawyers ( which MadhuVJ has some very good suggestions ) and move on from there
We are doing it brothers and sisters.
a2k2
08-23 01:18 PM
I came to know my wife's application is pending for finger printing. I was told she will be getting an appointment notice. Should I wait for notice or can we just walk in? I live in NJ and if anyone has had this experience please let me know. Don't want to miss while my PD is still current - Nov 05.
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msyedy
05-23 12:44 PM
Sent emails to all senators requested and + 2.
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SunnySurya
08-18 01:14 PM
This issue cannot be solved through Lawsuit. What are the other alternatives?
Didn't someone took up the EB3->EB2 porting issue already; can't this issue be clubed along with it? ek teer se do shikar!!
Didn't someone took up the EB3->EB2 porting issue already; can't this issue be clubed along with it? ek teer se do shikar!!
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02-18 03:27 PM
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icedgin
02-04 11:31 PM
A relative has invited me to be an immigrant to Manitoba. But currently we are derivative beneficiaries of my wife's EB3 visa and she is already in the US for 1 1/2 years as a lawful permanent resident.
I would like to ask what would be the effect on our US PR visa application and to my wife's green card status if I apply for a permanent residency in Canada?
Thank you.
I would like to ask what would be the effect on our US PR visa application and to my wife's green card status if I apply for a permanent residency in Canada?
Thank you.
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09-15 05:38 PM
I 've sent pm.. please update the google doc.
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eb3retro
07-19 07:24 PM
the above poster summarized it very good. here are some of my thoughts..
1) we can come up with a formal letter (standard one) which is well written and can be faxed to USCIS director or emailed.
2) we can also fax/email the same letter to ombudsman so that they are aware of this issue.
in my gut feeling ombudsman is as close as we can get to uscis if we need visibility to this. optionally we can use the same letter to send it to the senators/congressman.
The letter should be short, precise, upto the point, without any spelling mistakes, well written. if u look at this post itself, you could very well decide that i am not suitable for that job. can someone in eb3-I who has a good writing skill come up with such a letter and so that we can try what ever we can from our end. its every dog's battle here. and if sanyahari is fighting, its his / her right to do so. so what do u say folks?
1) we can come up with a formal letter (standard one) which is well written and can be faxed to USCIS director or emailed.
2) we can also fax/email the same letter to ombudsman so that they are aware of this issue.
in my gut feeling ombudsman is as close as we can get to uscis if we need visibility to this. optionally we can use the same letter to send it to the senators/congressman.
The letter should be short, precise, upto the point, without any spelling mistakes, well written. if u look at this post itself, you could very well decide that i am not suitable for that job. can someone in eb3-I who has a good writing skill come up with such a letter and so that we can try what ever we can from our end. its every dog's battle here. and if sanyahari is fighting, its his / her right to do so. so what do u say folks?
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pappu
04-20 10:16 AM
I have recently been talking to members who have already filed I485 and have used AC21 to change jobs. I noted some limitations people face while changing jobs, getting higher salaries, making use of AC21 for changing more than 1 job.. etc etc.
It seems there is lack of information on this subject. Let us use this thread to
- share expeiences
- List issues you have all faced so that IV can have this information while working on advocay efforts.
- Make others aware of your problems and do's and don'ts in the community.
- Interpretation of various lawyers on this and how they have helped you solve your difficult situations.
Hope this information will help everyone
It seems there is lack of information on this subject. Let us use this thread to
- share expeiences
- List issues you have all faced so that IV can have this information while working on advocay efforts.
- Make others aware of your problems and do's and don'ts in the community.
- Interpretation of various lawyers on this and how they have helped you solve your difficult situations.
Hope this information will help everyone
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amsgc
07-05 12:02 AM
Hey thx man...I had no idea about this. I will search for the post and read up on it.
Is this something that will be impacted by the Jul17th: no Labor substitution rule or are they completely different..
Retaining your PD, using a new I-140, is not the same as Labor substitution. There are several members who have successfully ported their PD, and may be able to advise you better.
Is this something that will be impacted by the Jul17th: no Labor substitution rule or are they completely different..
Retaining your PD, using a new I-140, is not the same as Labor substitution. There are several members who have successfully ported their PD, and may be able to advise you better.
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drirshad
08-13 11:12 PM
Cool calculation ..............
On aug 9 th, USCIS nebraska center issued a total of 4063 receipt nos for 485, EAD, and APs.
see the link http://.com/discuss/485eb/20866725/
From this, if we assume ~4000/day, it ll take 20 working days to clear july 2nd filers (~80,000). My guess is by 31st Aug.
On aug 9 th, USCIS nebraska center issued a total of 4063 receipt nos for 485, EAD, and APs.
see the link http://.com/discuss/485eb/20866725/
From this, if we assume ~4000/day, it ll take 20 working days to clear july 2nd filers (~80,000). My guess is by 31st Aug.
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jgh_res
12-17 07:44 AM
Are you trying to be a legal immigrant????? GC is not your right and you are here by choice.
Gym, yoga, work, birds - these things are just escape from reality. The reality is pretty grim. Imagine a new wanna be immigrant. He/she has basically two choices:
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
Gym, yoga, work, birds - these things are just escape from reality. The reality is pretty grim. Imagine a new wanna be immigrant. He/she has basically two choices:
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
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h1techSlave
03-28 11:16 AM
You have predicted that EB3-India cut of date would become June 2003. But your PD is July 2003. Usually people do not predict that way. They predict their own PD would become current pretty soon.:D
At one end it is bad that USCIS moved back Nebraska Processing date to June 08 2007 (More than one month backword) but it looks like USCIS is preparing itself to kick EB3-India ahead... It is too early to say this confidently.. But my feeling is that USCIS will keep processing dates tied to June 2007 and will kick EB3-India ahead. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Though as per murthy's web site in May bulletin EB3-India dates will remain same, I am feeling that if my guess is correct then at least from June bulletin we will see 2 patterns 1) Nebraka processing date would not move ahead for some months or will
move ahead very slowly from June 08 2007
2) Eb3-India PD dates will move ahead speedily. To me it looks like USCIS is now prepared to kick EB3-I (Till June 2003 PD) lot out.
At one end it is bad that USCIS moved back Nebraska Processing date to June 08 2007 (More than one month backword) but it looks like USCIS is preparing itself to kick EB3-India ahead... It is too early to say this confidently.. But my feeling is that USCIS will keep processing dates tied to June 2007 and will kick EB3-India ahead. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Though as per murthy's web site in May bulletin EB3-India dates will remain same, I am feeling that if my guess is correct then at least from June bulletin we will see 2 patterns 1) Nebraka processing date would not move ahead for some months or will
move ahead very slowly from June 08 2007
2) Eb3-India PD dates will move ahead speedily. To me it looks like USCIS is now prepared to kick EB3-I (Till June 2003 PD) lot out.
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sc3
08-18 05:18 PM
I am an EB3 (so go ahead with your Red dots!)...
For any lawsuit, there needs to be a basis. What is the basis of your proposed lawsuit?
It has been standard operating procedure to process applications on a FIFO basis, subject to some granularity. People who feel they should get their GCs first because their PDs are older are sadly mistaken. Processing by USCIS is based on RD/ND. Not PD. So any lawsuit complaining about PD-FIFOs is not going to fly.
I highly doubt that any lawsuit which complains that NSC is slower than TSCs is not going to fly either. Each Service center has certain amount of staff, and allocation to jobs, they will be some discrepancy. If someone is able to make a lawsuit stick on this basis, let us know, we will build a avalanche of lawsuits because labor was not being approved in an orderly fashion in 2001-2004 time frame, all of which will then have a direct impact on all the 2004-2006 filers.
Go ahead and help us out. File your lawsuits, EB3s will join the party with our own lawsuits.
For any lawsuit, there needs to be a basis. What is the basis of your proposed lawsuit?
It has been standard operating procedure to process applications on a FIFO basis, subject to some granularity. People who feel they should get their GCs first because their PDs are older are sadly mistaken. Processing by USCIS is based on RD/ND. Not PD. So any lawsuit complaining about PD-FIFOs is not going to fly.
I highly doubt that any lawsuit which complains that NSC is slower than TSCs is not going to fly either. Each Service center has certain amount of staff, and allocation to jobs, they will be some discrepancy. If someone is able to make a lawsuit stick on this basis, let us know, we will build a avalanche of lawsuits because labor was not being approved in an orderly fashion in 2001-2004 time frame, all of which will then have a direct impact on all the 2004-2006 filers.
Go ahead and help us out. File your lawsuits, EB3s will join the party with our own lawsuits.
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chanduv23
03-12 07:02 AM
Most people have a lack of understanding of the situation. Things may not get better, things may get worse. EB3 is further retrogressing, EB2 will not move further, another market slump expected, more layoffs getting announced (though may not be in high skilled sector, layoffs does matter in decision making), companies running out of funds, body shoppers reducing salaries and increasing their cuts .......
If people start getting depressed, more depression will come, so better understand the situation and plan accordingly and learn to live with problems rather than getting depressed.
If people start getting depressed, more depression will come, so better understand the situation and plan accordingly and learn to live with problems rather than getting depressed.
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gsc999
07-08 06:03 PM
I was working on DC but so far just received 30 votes..
Like I said I will talk to core members if only we have 1000 members who wants to do it in DC on July 14th.. So many members are online but they don't even want to take a poll.. I don't know what to expect from members..
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That is a good start. We had around 14 people on 07/07 demonstration but it was fun. Thirty is double that. I will keep you posted on what strategy we are following in Bay area. I will also request the Chinese member to post about the local event in DC once we finalize the logistics today evening.
Like I said I will talk to core members if only we have 1000 members who wants to do it in DC on July 14th.. So many members are online but they don't even want to take a poll.. I don't know what to expect from members..
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That is a good start. We had around 14 people on 07/07 demonstration but it was fun. Thirty is double that. I will keep you posted on what strategy we are following in Bay area. I will also request the Chinese member to post about the local event in DC once we finalize the logistics today evening.
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07-20 07:32 AM
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syzygy
07-07 12:54 PM
Yes the core problem is visa numbers. We have been fooled to believe for few days we all are safe and GC retrogression is over without even realizing someone was taking us for nice roller coaster ride.
When DOS doesnt have a Immigrant Visa available , its just not available.
DOS made it effective 2nd ,
"Effective Monday July 2, 2007 there will be no further authorizations in response to requests for Employment-based preference cases. All numbers available to these categories under the FY-2007 annual numerical limitation have been made available. "
USCIS by law cant accept any applications effective 2nd.
People whoes H1B applications were accepted on first day and then were rejected , Can they have done something?
Sir , we are screwed, thats doesnt mean a law is broken
We need the legislature intervention to make the limit higher.
When DOS doesnt have a Immigrant Visa available , its just not available.
DOS made it effective 2nd ,
"Effective Monday July 2, 2007 there will be no further authorizations in response to requests for Employment-based preference cases. All numbers available to these categories under the FY-2007 annual numerical limitation have been made available. "
USCIS by law cant accept any applications effective 2nd.
People whoes H1B applications were accepted on first day and then were rejected , Can they have done something?
Sir , we are screwed, thats doesnt mean a law is broken
We need the legislature intervention to make the limit higher.
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